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00:00:00 ▶️ Candace Owens: Okay, everybody. Shabbat Shalom. I just want to say Shabbat Shalom to everybody back at home. Happy Hanukkah to our greatest friends and allies. And you know, this is a good time to mention that Israel does have a right to defend itself. Tucker is Adolf Hitler and TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad. It’s just how I’m feeling today. I am not different. Maybe you are different. Welcome back to Candice. Okay, you guys are crazy. You guys are absolutely crazy.
00:00:45 ▶️ Candace Owens: The amount of people who attacked me for sending out a tweet being like, hey, I’m good, I’m alive. We had a very productive conversation and they were like, she got the call. She got the call. She’s betrayed us. She’s doing something else. I can’t believe it. This has all just been a show. Calm down, okay? What do you think happened? Erika said, stop. And then I was frozen for four and a half, four hours and 30 minutes, just like, as they just put all of these talking points into my head, that is not what happens. I keep telling you guys, I am not governable. I am basically akin to Kanye.
00:01:24 ▶️ Candace Owens: I never felt more seen than when he tweeted a lot of years ago, just fired my manager because I realized I can’t be managed. That is me, that tweet right there, I was like, oh gosh, yes, Kanye, I get this, okay? Nobody is changing their mind anything. How ridiculous would it have been if I’m doing all of this, investigating, asking all of these questions, and then Erika offers to answer some of these questions and I’m like, no. I’m not gonna go. I can’t betray the people. I don’t want any answers to the questions. I just want to ask them. No, this is the entire reason we are doing this. We’ve been looking at the situation going, why can’t Turning Point USA just answer basic questions?
00:02:04 ▶️ Candace Owens: And I can tell you guys that yesterday for four hours and 30 minutes, there were no rules.📅 They said you can say, you can ask us any question that you want, anything that’s on your mind, which I appreciated. And some of you guys are thinking, who is they? Who is they? It’s the Jews, obviously. Just kidding. It’s Justin. Justin was in the room. It was just Justin and Erika. George joined me just for the beginning portion of the conversation because he had that thing going on that I told you on the 15th all day. He was in a conference. And then I brought my cousin Mia, you know, the one that has a really bad attitude. I just bring her there for vibes. I think it just confuses people. They’re like, I don’t understand. What’s this person doing here? And the reality is she’s like always just listening to Cardi B music.
00:02:48 ▶️ Candace Owens: But she’s my cousin and I always have her route. And so that was it. She was kind of sitting a little bit away. But at the table, it was just it was really just the four of us until George left. And I will be honest, I did not know what to expect going into the room. I did not know If they were going to be open, I didn’t know what Erica’s energy was going to be like, if it was going to be more of an argument, if there was going to be legal threats. You guys were telling me not to drink water, so I didn’t drink water while I brought my own water, but I didn’t drink that water too. It was a lot. There’s a lot going on. Okay. And the conversation started with Justin.
00:03:29 ▶️ Candace Owens: very sensibly saying, what are we looking to accomplish here? Like, what is the actual aim of this conversation? And he was pretty clear and Erika was very clear that they were sort of most upset with what I, obviously a bit of a fever pitch, when I tweeted that it was a godforsaken company and people should not give money to it. And I have to own that. That’s aggressive. That is actually aggressive in the retrospect. I was very frustrated. And I don’t know, I just, I felt like we weren’t getting any answers and there were so many lies. And then I was getting attacked for asking all meaningful questions that was within their capacity to answer.
00:04:10 ▶️ Candace Owens: And I told you, I definitely, my problem in life is that I can rise to anger very quickly. I shared with them that I really felt like I was under attack for telling the truth from the very beginning, like casually, when I mentioned the Catholicism thing, like what was that about? I was like, look, I say something in a tribute to him, Alex and Andrew then jump onto a podcast and they’re doing that weird interview, which is clearly aimed at me. And they’ve teased the interview as like aimed at me, but they never say my name. And that to me felt like it was the first, I don’t know, I got the first bit of mud that was slung, which their answer for that was, hey, that was a really crazy time.
00:04:52 ▶️ Candace Owens: A new system had to be put into place. And by no means did Erika give any person the authority to go out and say that the false something was a lie. It kind of turned into this big thing, whatever. Okay, that kind of obviously was not the meat of the reason that we wanted to sit down. I will say I was immediately refreshed by the fact that one of the first things that Erika did was she owned the lies, the lies or rather I guess they would cage it as miscommunications that were coming from various people at the company, like look this is a company with 650 people that are employed.
00:05:30 ▶️ Candace Owens: everybody at this time is exceedingly emotional and they are communicating and no matter what somebody says on Twitter, they assume that this communication has come down from management and that’s not always a circumstance. But they owned right away, which felt great, that if you guys recall, We, Erika sat down with Glenn. I actually missed this portion because I didn’t get to watch the interview in its entirety. We were pulling clips because a lot was coming out very quickly. But there was a portion that was going around that was viral. And it was Erika saying that she had Charlie’s phone and that Charlie never texted anybody the night before saying that he thought that they were going to kill him. And that obviously reflected poorly on me.
00:06:11 ▶️ Candace Owens: because I was the one who said that he did in fact text multiple people the night before. And then I went on Jimmy on Friday, Jimmy show, and I clarified, I said, Andrew told me specifically that he was one of the people that received this text message. So I got that first person. I didn’t get that from a source. I got that directly from Andrew. And then somebody who had access to Dan’s communications, said that Dan similarly received a text message.
00:06:43 ▶️ Candace Owens: They owned that right away and explained, Erika said that she has Charlie’s phone, she’s looking at his iMessages, and it turns out that he, like everybody else, communicates on signal, he communicates on telegram, and when she heard me say that, they then went and looked, and yes, what I said was true. Andrew received a message the night before, and Dan received a message the night before. Now, they asked me if I had actually like a concrete copy of what Dan got the night before, and I said no. Somebody told me what it said, which was almost exactly what Andrew said, which is, they’re going to kill me.
00:07:21 ▶️ Candace Owens: Andrew did not know who they were, who they, the they that he was referring to were, but they, clarified that the message that Dan received said the left is going to kill me. So I can’t confirm that one way or the other. I have to trust them on that because I did not see that concrete message. I was told that it said they. Now, obviously, we discussed the moment and I’m laughing here because you TikTokers are actually out of control. You guys are going to be the reason that Israel gets TikTok because you guys are acting a fool all the time and the videos were so hilarious of you guys mocking the Bari interview. It’s great. It’s good to laugh at ourselves. and Bari is always worth laughing at.
00:08:02 ▶️ Candace Owens: But I was sort of like, hey, I felt name checked by the podcaster, Candace Owens, this obvious setup and then asking me to stop. And it’s interesting to hear Erika say that the reason she didn’t ask me to stop in the beginning, because she was actually learning things from the show. She was actually learning things and that I think she similarly felt that Bari was trying to create a moment. Obviously, it’s who Bari is. It’s the Zionist lobby. She’s trying to right wrong perceived wrongs because I’m against her side. That does not surprise me. That’s kind of why Bari exists.
00:08:38 ▶️ Candace Owens: That’s the reason they put her at CBS is because she’s just committed to stacking the audience with people that are going to present the pro-Israel cause and talk about anti-Semitism and talk about like crime. being on the rise, it’s kind of an embarrassment, but I actually do accept that. And I should also clarify that Bari obviously picked those questions. They were not random, like I told you. It wasn’t like people were coming to the mic and it was an open mic and they didn’t know what they were going to get. It was all very much planned by Barry. Erika said that she knew the general idea, like they were going to mention me and mention the conspiracies, but she was not given that specific, the podcaster, Candice Owens question. So I think that’s fair to clear that up.
00:09:22 ▶️ Candace Owens: Now, I did not at all recant any of my suspicions and I understand people disagree with me. about particular people at Turning Point USA. I communicated what I communicated in front of the whole world. My skin crawled after I spoke to Terrell Farnsworth, the person who took the cameras down. He lied to me several times. I explained to them, which felt good to have that direct communication, how Terrell lied multiple times and that I did not understand why he was there that day. They echoed what he said. They defended
00:09:57 ▶️ Candace Owens: what he said that they were trying something new that day that they typically live stream which is what Terrell said they typically live stream and I said every college event well they said well yeah they live stream the events that are tour stops but they don’t live stream like the outside prove me wrong type events and that was something that was new and it required Terrell and I said even if that was all real If that was all true, I still didn’t feel good about the conversation that I had with Terrell and I can’t ignore my gut about the many little lies that he told. I thought the video he recorded was weird. I know he comes from a very powerful family. I just, I personally do not trust him.
00:10:32 ▶️ Candace Owens: And I obviously do not like the fact that I said, you know, Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Boyer lied about this thing and said, he came up with an excuse and said, well, Terrell was asked to take the camera down. That’s the reason, he said on Twitter. because the police wanted him to take it down and secure the footage. And I said, I know that’s not true. And they said, well, after all of that, yeah, after he took the cameras down, there was a police officer or Fed, whoever it was that spoke to him and asked him to secure the footage. Well, that makes sense. But it’s not a reason for why he took it down immediately. It makes sense that as you’re investigating, you’re going to say, who’s got the footage? You know, let’s lock it down. But it didn’t make sense to me that Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Boyer Lied about it and I don’t trust Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Boyer and that does not that is never going to change Similarly with Rob McCoy.
00:11:16 ▶️ Candace Owens: He makes my skin crawl. I can’t explain it This is a I look at him and he’s a bad person and nobody can make me feel one way or the other about that I was surprised to learn and this is kind of gets into I guess us not knowing the inner workings at turning point USA that Rob McCoy actually does not work with turning point USA in any capacity whatsoever and so him communicating as he has done like I’m the pastor on this, I’m that, it’s just not real. Like that is not real. And we should know that that’s not real. And when he says that, call him out on that separately from Turning Point USA, I was operating under the assumption that he worked for Turning Point USA. And I said, if obviously that’s wrong, I’m happy to correct that.
00:11:58 ▶️ Candace Owens: But also, what were we to assume when he hit the stage at the memorial and said, I’m America’s pastor and then had the Wikipedia updated and said, I’m assuming he had it updated because who else would do that? That he started Turning Point USA faith. So I guess to be clear, we were just wrong about that. And I will have a lot more to say about Rob McCoy and where I believe he fits into a lot of things. So I’m not letting up on that now. One piece of this where I was, I still don’t understand it and. The magic bullet, okay. Now we all recall what happened. I casually say on the show, hey, I saw the footage. There was no blood.
00:12:42 ▶️ Candace Owens: And honestly, when I said it, I didn’t process how big of a deal that was with the 30.6. Very quickly what happens is Andrew whips up this tweet about what happened with the bullet. And he said he wanted to address all the discussion that was being had about the online chatter. I’m obviously paraphrasing here. He says, I apologize, it’s going to get graphic, but he spoke with the surgeon. The bullet should have gone through the surgeon that explained that what he’s typically seen on these wounds and basically this was all a miracle. Charlie saved lives even in death. And the internet clocked it, this miracle, the healthy bone, his bone was so healthy and the density was so impressed. Like, this is a quote by the way.
00:13:27 ▶️ Candace Owens: His bone was so healthy, I wanna read it. This is allegedly from a surgeon, quote. His bone was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too. And we were just like, That kind of was like the beginning of the WTF, right? I feel like that was kind of the beginning of it. And immediately people in the comments responded to Andrew and he said, this individual said this post is so fake as it would violate HIPAA. Like there’s patient privacy. You can’t just call up the surgeon.
00:14:10 ▶️ Candace Owens: And then Andrew Colbert replies and says, rest assured, I would not have posted without full permission. Now he said he spoke to the surgeon and they confirmed that Andrew spoke to the surgeon, but that they did not know that he was gonna write that tweet. They did not know that he called up the surgeon. So like it very much came across to be like Andrew was just flying by the seat of his pants, I don’t know, like he was just flying dark on the, and I was like, that seems very strange to me because why would a surgeon do that? Like the first thing the surgeon should say is, I can’t speak to you. I don’t even know, in theory, Andrew wasn’t even there when Charlie died. I don’t even know why the surgeon even knows this guy, actually.
00:14:53 ▶️ Candace Owens: Maybe he hung around after, but, you know, Andrew was not one of the people that got into the hospital or anything like that. So this is quite literally the PR guy who’s calling the surgeon. And so that just seems… That just seems very inappropriate for a person to do, period. And I would say it was kind of the beginning, but that was what I got from that. Now, obviously we discussed the security. I brought up Brian (Brian Harpole), this interview with Sean (Shawn Ryan). And I think we can believe turning point when they say that they did not approve of this. They had no idea he was going on Sean (Shawn Ryan). I think that’s pretty clear. I don’t believe he works there anymore.
00:15:31 ▶️ Candace Owens: So that was kind of him just getting out there and perhaps trying to rescue his own reputation. And I think that that only made his reputation worse, actually, because people rightfully sense that he wasn’t telling the truth in that interview, that he was being cagey, that he was saying things that didn’t. make any sense. Again, you constantly have these people that believe, like Brian (Brian Harpole), that with enough performance, he can sit down and you’re just going to convince people that this is real and this is just a different time. Like I said, these TikTokers are out of control. They will check you in four seconds, okay? Things that, the biggest piece of this that I wanna communicate and that I did communicate to them, and I hope that they took me seriously on this, or rather that they take my strong advice on this.
00:16:16 ▶️ Candace Owens: I said, one of the reasons why I really wanna sit down is because I wanna walk out of here and feel confident saying to my audience, hey, like, there’s stuff going on behind the scenes, but Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson shot Charlie (Charlie Kirk). Like that more will come out, but you can take it from me that this is what happened. I was looking to achieve that because there’s been a lot of signaling from various people, some people who are experts, some people who have been involved in cases that there’s obviously gonna be stuff that the public does not have access to. And so it is at least plausible that,
00:16:57 ▶️ Candace Owens: They have seen very clear footage that we’ve been asking for of Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson getting up there and taking the shot. Like they have access to UVU cameras. So I was hoping to hear that. And I said that I want to hear why people feel so confident at Turning Point USA that Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson is the guy. And at this point, they elected to call the lawyer, like, you know, their lawyer, who is involved in this case, one of the lawyers that’s involved in this case, there’s always a team of lawyers, especially for something like this. And what I got from the lawyer, did not make me feel that Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson shot Charlie (Charlie Kirk). It did not make me feel confident that he didn’t or did shoot Charlie (Charlie Kirk). I was very surprised by this. He spoke a very long time. I asked, you know, can you share with me what it is?
00:17:41 ▶️ Candace Owens: And I said, when you share it with me, I will not say what that thing is, if we wanna protect the integrity of the case. I’m not gonna, if you say, we’ve got the footage of him taking a shot, I promise I won’t say that to the audience, but I will communicate to them that you have something that is solid. And no, to the exact contrary, this guy effectively said, not effectively, he said that they have nothing but the affidavit. So what you have, what we have seen is what they have. What is being discussed publicly, you are this whole like non-expert problem with like, well, you don’t know, it’s like what you read. His messages that don’t have any dates on it, Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson writing out everything in the clean alibi, that’s what they have.
00:18:25 ▶️ Candace Owens: And what he explained to me was that that’s the affidavit stage. That’s where it’s at. And then what takes place now is the investigation is ongoing, right? So right now they’re looking for more information. And once investigators, they could very well have obviously footage. And that is why they might feel that we’re definitely gonna get this prosecution. But the reality is, is they don’t actually share that information with the victim. They don’t share that information with Erica. In this part of the process, they will not know what investigators have discovered, this is what the lawyer told me, until May. Okay? They will not, they have not seen anything that you have not seen, is what I want you to know.
00:19:06 ▶️ Candace Owens: So with that in mind, I’m sitting here going, why are you signaling? Why do I feel like the public’s being gaslit on this? There’s been nothing that’s convincing. There are so many commentators who have gone out and said to you, it’s overwhelming. The evidence is overwhelming. The text messages. that don’t have a date that don’t even sound real, that’s overwhelming. That to me feels really fake and gay. I really do wanna say that to every commentator that is out there trying to tell the public and insisting that if you say it enough times to become real, you’re actually just being dishonest. And I offer that a more honest way to communicate would be to say, we think he’s involved. We feel strongly, I’ve said that, I think he’s involved. We are very hopeful that
00:19:50 ▶️ Candace Owens: Throughout this investigation, we are going to get that concrete thing. And that’s where we’re at right now. That’s just the stage that we are at. That is not what we are getting from them. That is like I just I just feel like that’s really important to let you guys know what the gaslighting stop. They have what you have. OK, there is nothing else. They are in an investigative stage. Eric has been named as the victim. They will know more. in this May hearing, which is the probable cause hearing. That’s what the lawyer told me, it’s a probable cause hearing. And that’s when they will see the evidence. That’s when they get to present the evidence why they are gonna stand there before a judge and be like, yes, we need to move this forward. It’s not just an affidavit. We’re not pulling together scraps. We have concrete evidence. Until then.
00:20:30 ▶️ Candace Owens: Okay, until we all get on the same page and understand what else they have, I am very confident stating the opposite of all of my, I guess, well-paid peers in that I don’t believe that Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson pulled the trigger. And what I also said to them was, and I said this in front of the lawyer, because I don’t know why I’m like this. I was like, you might need a new lawyer. I was like, because this person’s trying to sell to you that this is solid. One of the rules that me and my husband have is that if you have a lawyer that tells you, like, you’re 100% gonna win, it’s very clear that you’re gonna win, you need to do lawyer. Okay, that’s a cheerleader. That’s not a lawyer. A lawyer, even if you should 100% win, should be telling you the risks here. You know, I feel good about this case that like, let me talk real to you. I feel good about this case.
00:21:13 ▶️ Candace Owens: But here’s where things could go wrong. I want you to understand those risks that are involved. We don’t have this yet. We don’t have that yet. And especially given what I told them, which is I’m the only your lawyers or the investigators rather not their lawyers, because they’re not the ones investigating. It’s the state of Utah that’s investigating. They have not called the one solitary person, as I told you guys, who filmed as he was on the roof. Remember the guy that’s like, oh, there’s somebody on the roof and he sees him crouch down. I said, I spoke to that person. and his testimony would be devastating to your prosecution. He did not, he saw the person on the roof, he filmed the person on the roof at 12, 23 p.m., and he did not see that person take the shot.
00:21:57 ▶️ Candace Owens: And this is not some random student. This is a guy who trains people to shoot guns at a range. He knows guns, okay? He saw, he said what he saw was a smaller gun. He said that this person was dressed in black tactical gear and there was no recoil. That’s devastating. That would be devastating to the prosecution. And yet, investigators haven’t reached out. Now, they offered back. Well, maybe they haven’t reached out because they have an even clearer video. And that’s true. That’s actually a good rebuttal. They’re like, we don’t even have Chocolate Sky because the video will speak for itself and we saw what we saw. Okay, but wouldn’t you still want to speak to the other guy so you could prepare, I don’t know, to question him something?
00:22:39 ▶️ Candace Owens: I don’t like if this investigation is going on and I’ve apparently, or I feel as though I spoke to more people than they have. Both of the people who filmed videos that day told me that they weren’t reached out to. So I don’t understand what’s happening here. I don’t understand the confidence, I guess, is the best way to say this. I told them I do not understand the confidence that is happening. Another really big thing that happened was they brought me Mikey’s call logs, okay? They brought me Mikey’s call logs and that is why I said this was a productive meeting. There was no other way to say it. I asked every question and they came with paperwork to show and to answer and to explain certain things.
00:23:20 ▶️ Candace Owens: Also, which was I thought actually kind of sweet that I guess I’m, you know, I did on the previous show. I was like kind of looking at things into Mikey and I couldn’t find him. And someone said, I think Mikey’s not his like real name, like they thought it was his middle name actually. And I just assumed, okay, well maybe he’s using his middle name and that’s why I can’t find him. But Mikey really wants you guys to know that is his real name and it is his real name. I found out shortly thereafter that they were confusing his middle name with, they thought that it was switched. Michael is his real name, just to clarify that, because I realized I actually didn’t go back and clarify that. But Mikey’s call logs, big piece of this, okay?
00:23:58 ▶️ Candace Owens: I’m going to, I guess, jog your memory on what Blake said about Mikey that day, and then I’ll tell you what actually happened, because I don’t think Blake has that great of a memory, okay? Take a listen. So I was not with Mikey, or I don’t remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. And then we get out, and I run for, must have been more than 15 or 20 seconds, and then I realize there hasn’t been another shot, so the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something, not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me, and I see Mikey.
00:24:33 ▶️ Candace Owens: and i see mikey there and i’ll never truthfully i will never forget what i saw because i’ve seen mikey almost every day for the past two years i know his personality very well he’s a very bubbly guys a very happy guy almost all of the time and i’ll never forget what i saw because it was clear in the moment that he was profoundly freaked out what i’ll always remember is the ways his lip was quivering which i’d never seen before and you you very rarely see from someone that’s he was three and then i think he literally said to me i i might be imagine this but i think what he literally said was he’s in that he was looking around and then he says
00:25:11 ▶️ Candace Owens: I need to call Erika and then he takes his phone and he begins calling Erika and I don’t want to disclose how that call unfolded but he did that this you know your mind extends all of this but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring I remember he calls Erica I around the same time, I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there’s been a shooting. You’re going to see it on the news. I’m OK. Pray for me. I’ve got to go. And I remember that call. And around the time I put that phone away, and then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Robin McCoy. And he says, dad, someone shot Charlie. You need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now.
00:25:56 ▶️ Candace Owens: And that’s what he told him. Okay, so that’s just not right. And so when he says, I might be imagining this for I’ll never forget, followed by I might be imagining this probably means that maybe you forgot and like you really could be imagining. Now for me personally, I think the normal physiological response in these high adrenaline situations for most people as you lock in, that they’re literally your body when it goes through something, what’s terrified and it’s going through they sort of like, you are really paying attention to details We’ve learned about this many times over in health class growing up. This is why they talk about that fight-or-flight response and quite literally there’s stuff happening to your body. And so there’s a lot of details here that are just not accurate.
00:26:38 ▶️ Candace Owens: And the one that surprised me the most about these call logs is I certainly feel that we were given the impression over and over and over again that the first person Mikey called was Erica, right? He called Erica, we were told this by many people, also that he trained, like he almost went to a camp and trained, and Charlie was like, one, two, three, go, and like fast, one, two, three, go, go, go, that’s why he walked away, one, two, three, go, and just told him, this is what the first thing you do is, Well, he didn’t do that. Actually, the first person he called was his wife. He called Elizabeth McCoy. And then he stayed on the phone with his wife for 10 minutes. And during those 10 minutes, he three-wayed Erika three minutes after the shot went off.
00:27:24 ▶️ Candace Owens: And then he three-ways his father, and then he three-ways a third person who I’m not interested in mentioning because it’s not relevant. This is Danny McCoy, by the way, is his brother that’s in the military, but that’s before the shot goes off. Charlie shot goes off. You know, I have that in detail. Charlie’s brought to security. Mikey (Mikey McCoy) calls his wife. They will stay on the phone for 10 minutes. Okay, in that same minute, because we know this, because Blake Neff has given us his call log to his mother. Blake Neff called his mom. His call with his mother lasted 45 seconds. So we’re assuming it went to 1225. It very well could have stayed in 1224, depending on the millisecond. Blake Neff ends that phone call with his mother.
00:28:04 ▶️ Candace Owens: Mikey (Mikey McCoy), after the phone call with his mother ends, adds Erika to the phone. Okay? So that, when he was recapping and he’s, I always, lip squivering, and he’s like, I gotta call Erika. He’s like, and then I called my mom. That’s not right. That’s just not right. Okay, Mikey called Erika after Blake and I ended that phone call with his mother. If call logs are to be believed above, you know, human testimony. Mikey (Mikey McCoy) then drops Erika from the phone call two minutes later, and then he adds his father to the phone call. Again, he is this entire time on the phone with his wife, okay? And then Mikey (Mikey McCoy) ends his phone call with his father.
00:28:47 ▶️ Candace Owens: He does call another person, who I’m not mentioning, because it’s just not relevant to anything. You know, not a character in the story, rather. And then he ends the phone call with his wife, and a minute later, His brother calls him back and they stay on the phone for 10 minutes. I did not get this from everybody speaking about this Mikey (Mikey McCoy) call log. I know that you guys did not get this. I did not get this. I don’t know why she was disappeared from this. Like you could go, like the wife wants privacy. No, she was like, you know, main stage at the memorial has been, you know, I would say very involved. in a lot of this kind of, you know, like I think it’s very close that she’s close with Erika.
00:29:32 ▶️ Candace Owens: They went on vacation together. So I just, I didn’t, I don’t get this disappearing act. I find, I found that to be like, okay, but, but they were forthcoming with it. That feels good. That feels good guys. Like, wow, we can, we don’t have to guess. Now we have solid answers. And like I said, when you come out and give solid answers and you’re not weird and calling people names and saying all this stuff, it allows people to go, okay, I feel a bit more like we can trust this process because we have communication. That’s the reality. And so I just I wanted to update you with that.
00:30:07 ▶️ Candace Owens: Also, another thing that really, I think, surprised them and I think surprised me is getting back to this Hamptons retreat. The thing about the Hampton Street, and I communicated this with them, that makes me so uncomfortable is how many little lies were told. I think I’ve been clear about that. Like, Seth Dillon definitively pressed Charlie at this event. Whether it was in a hypothetical, which it was in a hypothetical, but he got fired up in the hypothetical, of Charlie discussing, potentially tweeting something against Bibi Netanyahu, it did lead to this firecracker moment.
00:30:46 ▶️ Candace Owens: Again, this is one of those things where I go, why am I always being held out to dry, like hung out to dry for telling people the truth? Especially when I wasn’t going, oh, well Seth Dillon killed Charlie (Charlie Kirk). I just like, this happened, it factually happened. And yet everybody’s kind of putting out these weird statements and they’re not being honest in them. And I was saying to them, that made me feel really weird. I would love to know more about this BBNet and Yahoo offer to fund Turning Point to the next level. At which point Erika said she was not aware of that happening. It is obviously totally possible that that was kept in the business lane of Turning Point USA.
00:31:26 ▶️ Candace Owens: But I’m certain, I said I am absolutely certain that I did not get this from an obscure source that Bibi offered to Fund Turning Point to the next level. And it was part of my frustration with that sit down with Alex, where Andrew said, oh, there was not $150 million that’s made up. You know, I told them. Andrew was my source. Andrew told me. Verbatim. That BB Net and Yahoo offered to take turning points to the next level and that Charlie turned that money down. So I said, there’s a bit of a predicament when I’m being like lambasted by all of these voices and people that are attacking me and these paid campaigns.
00:32:06 ▶️ Candace Owens: And when I say paid, yes, okay, actually have the names of people, different ways are being paid. Some are being paid by PR firms. Too many are being paid by Prager University, which is upsetting to me because I know Marissa and it’s just dirty. But it’s especially crazy when people are calling it a conspiracy when I share things that are told to me from the spokesperson of Turning Point USA. Okay, that’s weird. And yes, they were forthcoming. Nobody’s ever denied this. So this was not on our list of lies about the fact that DB Netanyahu did call him. Okay, that did happen. BB shared that, by the way, our source for that could have just as well been BB Netanyahu. And not a lot of clarity on
00:32:51 ▶️ Candace Owens: I don’t know why some people think he didn’t make this offer and why definitively three different sources who would have knowledge of this confirmed to me that Bibi Netanyahu did indeed make this offer. I never said $150 million ever, not once on the show. I wouldn’t have even said that, by the way. If you said take Turning Point to the next level, I actually would have assumed it was more, if I’m being honest. That’s like a hefty offer and it leads to a lot of questions. So there was not a lot of clarity there. Lastly, I want to add, of course, I was locked in this meeting when the people on live were another round of debunking the Egyptian planes. I want to be very clear.
00:33:31 ▶️ Candace Owens: We discussed the Egyptian planes and I have since worked on an incredible document about the Egyptian planes, which we are going to put up on our websites because I realized that when we sent that, when we shared that spreadsheet, people assumed that one of the columns, which was actually saying where the planes landed on that day, because it was plus or minus three days, was exactly where Erika had been on that day, and that was inaccurate. And so for clarity, I had been working on the last week on turning it into an interactive timeline that we can put up on our website, because I am certain that these Egyptian planes are incredibly shady and that they were, in fact, tracking Turning Point USA faith broader events. Of course, Erika was at some of them, Charlie was at some of them, but it is the pattern here is undeniable.
00:34:13 ▶️ Candace Owens: So let the naysayers and people make videos trying to, what are we, fifth round debunk these planes. I also want to say to you that I feel very confident that I know why these planes have caused such panic. And it is because there is overwhelming evidence that these planes regularly fly in and out of Israel. And I’m going to present that evidence tomorrow. I say that strongly. This is the Like I feel very confident saying these Egyptian planes are flying in and out and notice I’m saying planes because once I was able to connect people that were on those planes onto other Egyptian planes, I was able to realize that these planes are flying in and out of Israel and turning their transponder off each time that they do it.
00:34:55 ▶️ Candace Owens: That is now makes perfect sense of why there was this mass panic, right? It’s not exactly like we have a strong Egyptian lobby. in the United States, now we’re like, whoa, well, those darn Egyptians again are trying to get TikTok censored. I mean, every person in the game, Barry acting. Well, these are the usual suspects that act if something is a threat to Israel, okay? Which is, they should have just been forthcoming, pretended that it was changing apart. Instead, they’re trying to gaslight us and they’re actually frankly just pissing me off. So I became locked in on these Egyptian planes because that’s how I am, okay? You keep pushing me and keep pushing me. I will become an expert on these planes. I’ll learn how to build an Egyptian plane. The reality is, like I said, tomorrow I will show you how these planes tie back to Israel.
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00:38:27 ▶️ Candace Owens: Just grab your phone, open the App Store or Google Play, type in Rumble, and hit download. Once you’re in, you can search for Candice Owens and click follow so that you never miss a new episode. You’ll get notified every time that I go live. If you care about free speech, if you want platforms that respect your right to think for yourself, and if you’re tired of big tech deciding what’s allowed, then this is the moment that you can make the switch. Your voice matters and the platforms that you choose matter just as much. You can move to Rumble today. Just click the link in the description below, download the app and join us there. I’ll see you there. Okay, so a couple of things I want to say. First and foremost, I just got a live update that I thought it was Danny McCoy on the call log. I should totally correct that and I will correct that and we’ll be sure to trim it in post here, but it is not Danny McCoy. It is Danny, another one of Charlie’s assistants.
00:39:12 ▶️ Candace Owens: So I will correct that. Please correct that if you’re going to make videos, not Danny McCoy that he got called him and then called him after that is another assistant of Charlie’s. So we want to be accurate. I don’t know why I assumed it was Danny McCoy in my head. I may have done that. Okay, another thing. You guys have may have been noticing that we are getting into this weird space where they seem to be almost writing like Candice Owens fan fiction. I can’t even reply to things and a lot of you sense that this was because we were getting close. I agree. I fully agree that these attacks, which have grown hysterical, like I can’t even begin to tell you the conversations between me and my PR person. I’m like, there’s nothing to respond to. I mean, there’s not even one sentence of this that is true.
00:39:56 ▶️ Candace Owens: Case in point, by the way, New York Post does this article today. It was we were actually laughing okay like inside Candice Owens is sadistic and dangerous world monetizing baseless conspiracies. This is after, by the way, they changed my husband’s Wikipedia and said that he was a Qatari, like he had a Qatari passport or citizenship. I don’t think my husband’s ever even flown over Qatar. I could be wrong, but I don’t think he’s there. I know he’s never been to Qatar. I don’t think he’s ever flown over Qatar and they’re just making it up. And then they make it trend no matter what it is. And I’m like, this is happening. It’s like a psychological operation because they’re trying to keep us
00:40:38 ▶️ Candace Owens: constantly responding as opposed to focusing on our investigation, which is why I spent this weekend and I just kept down on the Egyptian plains because it’s completely crazy. And when you see a media storm like this, it can only be happening because Zionists are locking arms and going attack, attack, attack, because they by and large control the media. They just do, okay? One way or the other, Zionists control the empire medias and they are scared about something in this investigation. We’ve noticed that from the very beginning.
00:41:03 ▶️ Candace Owens: So they wrote in this article, the New York Post, just to give you an example of how insane this is, they said they had an inside source that told them that while I was at the Daily Wire, I just fought with people from the very source that in my first week, I threw my car keys at a producer and expected them to park my car. That sentence genuinely made me laugh so hard because I never once in the entire time that I Worked for the daily wire. Did I ever drive my car to work?
00:41:37 ▶️ Candace Owens: Okay I just didn’t they had a driver that took me there So I don’t know why I would suddenly take the driver’s keys and then throw it at somebody but quite literally I never drove through daily wire So it’s just when I say fanfiction I’m like, this is fan fiction. Secondly, they say I did that to a producer and that I conducted, demanded others do my research, could not be further from the truth. I have always, always done my own shows. I can’t read a script. I riff my shows. I think that’s pretty obvious that I demanded a huge studio, attempted to use their PR firm to get the cover of People magazine. full fan fiction. There’s not even a shred.
00:42:21 ▶️ Candace Owens: I don’t even think we ever had a conversation at People Magazine because that would not be a normal outlet for any conservatives. That I wanted to be on the cover of People is insane. And they said that their sources also said that like my team hated me. My team came with me when I got fired. My whole team’s here. So I was just going, OK, what is happening here? Why are we talking about Qatar? Why are they making these things up? And I have come to the same conclusion as you. It is because we are we are dangerously close to something. I think we have to keep pushing on the Wachuca Air Base, which we are doing, and tomorrow we are going to get back into the investigation.
00:43:01 ▶️ Candace Owens: We’re just going to ignore the noise because, as I have said and as I have maintained. I believe that Charlie was betrayed by people that are close to him. And I asked that question in the meeting. I’m like, okay, if we can agree that everyone around, I was like, I know there are people at Turning Point, they’re not good people, right? And it’s feasible that people, if they have addictions that they, you know, you can definitely get yourself in a scenario where you are willing to sell somebody out. This is a massive organization. How can we so confidently state that nobody had anything to do here to do with anything here? And I think that one of the things that Erika was like, well, I’m not like a feminist. And I didn’t want the vibe of that, which I think it did come across like a bit of a feminist to say like, this is all my family.
00:43:45 ▶️ Candace Owens: I’m like, how could this all be your family? I know people in this family and they’re not good people. I wouldn’t even do that with my own family, okay? I got people in my family, like we all do, who aren’t exactly walking a straight arrow in life. And yeah, so I’ve communicated that. I have not changed my position on that. I am not going to stop researching the characters in this that I don’t feel good about. but further to sort of them just creating and making things up, Tim Poole has now gone out and extraordinarily claimed that I have the same security as Charlie (Charlie Kirk) and that I have a fraud and that actually I have the exact same security.
00:44:27 ▶️ Candace Owens: You will recall that Tim just said a week ago that I have no security, okay? This is Tim Poole a week ago. She is burning everything down, and she’s gloating and smiling while she does it. And you know what you told me? She has no security. She doesn’t deal with the we have to deal with. She’s a piece of she has security just not on the level of you. Oh, yeah. The one fat guy you mentioned with no wall and no barrier in a suburban neighbor with neighbors shouldn’t give to no one’s out for her. She’s lying about all of this. You told me you went to her house and she’s got a four foot wall and one fat guy, and she doesn’t give a about her security. So that was like Tim last Monday.
00:45:09 ▶️ Candace Owens: This is Tim who said I had no security except for one fat guy, which I told you was not true. Now he’s saying this, take a listen. Okay, I’ll say things that I probably shouldn’t say but I’m gonna say that I always get super heated on this. Candice Owens has the same security team as Turning Point and Charlie (Charlie Kirk) did. She’s lying. She has the same security people. I’ve been digging into this. I’ve been meeting with people and talking with them and I shouldn’t say too much because there’s more that’s gonna be coming out soon because rest assured people are filing legal paperwork against her. Candice has the same security team or has used the same security companies and the same security personnel as Charlie and Erika did. So when she comes out and is questioning them, she is lying outright. Now, I’ve invited many of these people to come on. We’ll see what happens.
00:45:54 ▶️ Candace Owens: We’ll see when they can. The issue is, the moment Candice goes on her show to millions of people and lies, Litigation begins. And what happens when litigation begins? People don’t do interviews about it. She is exploiting this and she knows she is to keep people wrapped up in this insanity. He, Tim versus Tim, undefeated. And what I will also say is that’s all a lie. It’s just, it’s, that’s what I’m, it’s almost like they have just sent a call, like they’re getting too close and just said, I don’t care what you write. I don’t care if it’s complete fiction, make it believable. Say her husband beats her, say her, like it’s coming after my husband. They’re coming after me and they’re making stuff up.
00:46:35 ▶️ Candace Owens: I have never employed the same security team as Charlie (Charlie Kirk) ever. We went our separate ways early, but actually back there was like, it’s obviously been publicized before he had Schaeffer security and Schaeffer security, which was run by Greg Schaeffer, who has issued a public statement. They had Dan and Brian Harpool working for them. Initially, I told Charlie I did not like the security apparatus. I got my own security separate from Charlie from the very beginning. OK, that’s a fact. It just is a fact. There’s no way to undo that fact. Trying to do this strategy of you’re going to get sued is just threatening somebody. If there was any truth to that, you can’t just file legal paperwork. You have to send a cease and desist. You have to say, something you said on your show was untrue. Can you please correct this, okay?
00:47:20 ▶️ Candace Owens: And if I ignore that, as I did with Brigitte, because I told the truth, as I did with Kim Clancy, because I told the truth, then you have the grounds to file something. We have received no cease and desist from Charlie’s security whatsoever. Over what? I mean, the audacity that you’re filing a lawsuit and someone got murdered on your watch, Because I accurately said that the Brian (Brian Harpole), the message he showed belonged to Dan. It did. And that they didn’t do a walkthrough on that day. They didn’t. And if something I’m getting wrong and you’d like to show me that actually you did. Send it send it over. We’re only shooting getting to the truth and we’re not getting it We’re certainly not expecting to get it from Tim pool.
00:47:59 ▶️ Candace Owens: That is that is crazy That’s that’s just crazy town But I do think that that is right now design a strategy and that’s why I want to encourage you guys to stay focused Watch hookah, which we’re gonna have a lot on tomorrow because there’s there is something there and I think that that caused a panic and as well as the Egyptian Plains, which I am telling you, go back, relate to Israel, and I will be able to prove that tomorrow for all of the naysayers. And again, it’s only because this is how they act. They always overreact, and then it lets us know that we are close. They are like an alarm. They are just an alarm. Something else that I wanted to show you, by the way, I thought we were not supposed to be doing live streams while we were speaking, but Turning Point, I guess, has their daily show, but I didn’t feel like that was communicated to me.
00:48:42 ▶️ Candace Owens: It felt like a ceasefire and then it got violated. But they had an interesting conversation on their show yesterday on the Charlie (Charlie Kirk) Show about this trial, the upcoming trial about Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson. And here is what they had to say. Take a listen. So this is straight from the charging document says Robinson’s mother explained that over the last year or so Robinson had become more political and started to lean more to the left becoming more pro gay and trans rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members but especially between Robinson and his father who have very different political views.
00:49:18 ▶️ Candace Owens: In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie (Charlie Kirk) would be holding an event at UVU, which Robinson said was a quote, stupid venue for the event. Robinson accused Kirk of spreading hate. And when you see how easy that rooftop access is, you start to kind of put one-on-one together and you realize that Robinson had a plan that he was going to ultimately take advantage of. And he obviously knew how easy it was to get up to that rooftop, which is terrifying. It really is.
00:49:49 ▶️ Candace Owens: And look, you know, one of the other things that’s being pushed around for a long time was that, you know, you TP USA, both the local chapter and you guys didn’t advertise this event till a couple days prior to now the insinuation there is that that doesn’t give Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) enough time to plan for this. And what we found out with a little bit of, I don’t know, 20, not even five minutes of Googling and looking, Look, you guys have already put out on your website as early as August 27th, so we have at least almost a full two weeks📅 prior to this, that not only the time of the event, but the location, the exact location of the UVU courtyard.
00:50:28 ▶️ Candace Owens: So when you have over 10 days of planning, and it sounds like that Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) already was familiar with the campus to begin with, Like a lot of the mystery of this starts to go out the window and it starts to really conform with what is exactly being proposed by the state of Utah and the FBI in the charging documents. Yeah. And we can attest we, you know, Andrew Cipher, who’s our head of field, you know, Charlie sometimes throw the events out, you know, seven, 10 days in advance. If something opened up in his schedule, he would be able to do these outdoor events a pretty quick turn. And so that whole theory kind of goes out the window.
00:51:08 ▶️ Candace Owens: So unless I am mistaken and I am not perfect, but I do feel like we worked really hard to see when this location was first revealed. The first time that we found that the courtyard was mentioned because Charlie speaking at events, your assumption would be there inside, right? You have no idea where it is. So it’s not like you can see whether you have a shot. to the courtyard unless you know Charlie speaking in the courtyard. The earliest that we found that was on September 2nd, the local media mentioned on KMYU that Charlie📅 (Charlie Kirk) was speaking at UVU in the courtyard, okay? That’s the first time that we found this. If I am wrong, please tag me because what he’s referring to on August 27th that happened, which we have on our timeline as well, and this is why I love a timeline, is that TPUSA, UVU, and the local BYU chapter
00:51:52 ▶️ Candace Owens: shared a graphic announcing that Charlie was coming to UVU, but there were absolutely no location details mentioned. So that actually does shred the idea that he could have practically gone and scaled rooftops before September 2nd. That’s the first public mention is September 2nd. So they announced the event on August 27th, as he says, no location details. And then on September 2nd, there are location details provided by local media for the first time. Prove me wrong. Okay. Prove me wrong if that is, if I’m inaccurate, because I do think that we were thorough on that. I will update my timeline.
00:52:32 ▶️ Candace Owens: If not, it does then go, beg the question, surely they must have footage after September 2nd of him testing the rooftop in some capacity to then realize, oh, it’s going to be an outdoor event. This is an opportunity for me to go after him. We are waiting for that. And like I said, I was told that they don’t have anything that the public doesn’t have. So it’s not obvious to me, I don’t think it’s obvious to the public. Now, I do want to get to Viva Frey, who had this to say regarding drones. Oh, sorry, I mean, sorry, regarding the text messages from Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson.
00:53:11 ▶️ Candace Owens: A lot has been made about these text exchange that went back and forth between Robinson and his lover, his trans, furry, gay lover, whatever. People say it doesn’t sound right, doesn’t sound right. There is a video that I want everybody to check out by Turkey Tom. I believe you’ve watched it now, Viva, where, and this has been authenticated as somebody who was in the Discord chats with them and apparently spent time with them at this apartment. And he said, 100%, this is how they talked. which is a striking finding. We’re gonna go into that more probably tomorrow or the next day, depending on how today goes. But I mean, I get the skepticism on this.
00:53:52 ▶️ Candace Owens: At first it struck me too, but apparently this is how they talk, Viva. That was not the most the most implausible thing to believe. Okay, so you have a text message. It does read regardless of whether or not this is how they talk people saying they were they were manufactured by or drafted by AI to the extent that they’re confirmed text messages. You can you know, come to whatever conclusions you want after that, but they you know, Whether or not this is how they talk regularly, to the extent that those were authentic text messages, they show what they show, which is whether or not his lover was aware of what was going on, you’re etching bullets and, you know, it’s maybe not for target practice of a sporting nature.
00:54:32 ▶️ Candace Owens: But when I say I don’t believe the official narrative, and you have to go back to a number of things here, I put my sort of best theory as to what went down. I want to know who was on the Discord chat in advance, what they were discussing, and whether or not there might have been some other foreign, I say foreign, not foreign government, but outer influence there. Tyler (Tyler Robinson) is getting radicalized right about the same time as Thomas Crooks, right about the same time as the other guy, Ryan Ruth. He’s being radicalized at a politically relevant period of time, right around the same time, oddly enough, as the alleged suspect in the January 6th pipe bomber. A time frame where political violence is potentially very useful for the upcoming election.
00:55:15 ▶️ Candace Owens: So the time frame of the radicalization is very interesting. To see whether or not he was on anybody’s radar beforehand. We don’t yet know that and why there would not be confirmation on that can lead to suspicion. You remember the old man, George Zinn, arrested for claiming to be the shooter of the day of and then gets busted for CP on his phone. In my mind, if I’m making a plausible theory here, George Zinn was probably on some Discord chat with a bunch of young perverts and he’s an old pervert and he’s getting off doing whatever they do on those chats. He knows what’s going down. He shows up there and thinks he’s going to be some useful decoy or distraction for Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson because they know what’s going down. That’s my theory. But, you know, it is
00:55:54 ▶️ Candace Owens: The absence of total disclosure, the total lack of faith that anybody has, not just in the FBI per se, but in any state law enforcement, nobody has any faith in our institutions anymore. And it leads people to go from, you know, healthy skepticism to just not believing it, to concocting the most outlandish conspiracy theories imaginable. But then those text messages, you cannot understand how they will cause people to come to those types of conclusions. And, you know, allegedly the rumors are. Cash Patel, you know, getting mad at Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent for trying to look into a potential terrorist angle to this, also does nothing to foment faith in the system.
00:56:34 ▶️ Candace Owens: I think it’s what he’s saying there is perfectly valid and we can all surmise about what we think happened that day. We can also ignore the fact that I broke the story that the nurses were told at Utah Valley, which treated George Zinn. Everyone’s ignoring the things that I broke. She has no evidence, but he said he told the nurses that he was paid to do that. So whatever we can all theorize and which we’re going to do in the absence of any concrete facts. But I will say it’s good that Turning Point is at least giving that air, right? I feel before, I think that might even be the first time Andrew has expressed that he thought that those messages were weird initially. That’s good. That’s what people want. They want fresh air at Turning Point USA. They want different perspectives. They want to feel like you’re willing to have a conversation and that at least you’re going to defend people when they’re being called liars when they’re telling the truth about something. That would feel more authentic, I think.
00:57:19 ▶️ Candace Owens: And so I am, Just to say this, very happy that we are on much better feet and that we have opened the lines of communication. I do genuinely think that Justin did a great job reffing that conversation yesterday. And I also do want to shout out Megyn Kelly, because this was what we were trying to make this happen in the background, really, since Blake and F fumbled the first invite. And thank you. That’s in large part because of you guys at home that were like, what the F was that? And I think that they got enough flak that they were like, OK, we got to fix this. But I want to commend him for making that happen, for being the person that, you know, kind of rolled up his sleeves and was like, okay, let’s actually make a conversation happen and start answering some questions, which I think was done well.
00:58:00 ▶️ Candace Owens: And Megyn Kelly, who was initially going to, when we were going to live stream the conversation, before the Bari moment, Megyn Kelly offered to ref that conversation. I felt like she would have done a very good job. I do think that she has kept it very even. She has not been hysterical. It’s demonic, it’s evil, how dare Candice.” And I appreciated that. She has said, I don’t agree with Candice, but I also don’t think that she’s doing this because she’s been possessed by a demon. I think she actually believes these things, and I do. And I have a right to believe those things. And I don’t feel any differently about the people that I mentioned on the show that I think are shady at Turning Point USA. And with time, we’ll see whether or not I was right. I think that’s really what it comes down to. But all around, definitely a productive conversation.
00:58:44 ▶️ Candace Owens: I know it’s four hours, so more things will come to my mind as they become relevant, but I think that that’s a good pause for right now with some of our sponsors. All right, you guys. So for many families, the holidays means excitement and also a little bit of stress between gifts, travel and higher prices. It’s easy to feel overwhelmed, especially if you’re already relying on credit cards to cover the basics. If that debt is piling up, you should know that you’re not alone. If you are a homeowner, you might have considered switching to American financing, but hesitated because you don’t want to give up your low mortgage rate. That’s why American Financing created the Smart Equity Loan, which is a simple, smart way to get your finances back on track without giving up your low mortgage rate.
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01:00:45 ▶️ Candace Owens: Well, purgestore.com offers an organic yet potent all-natural formula that targets and kills parasites and aggressively flushes them from your system. Purge is not a synthetic drug. It is an herbal remedy that is safe, yet powerful, and can be taken daily to prevent future parasitic invasions. Right now, you can save 15% off at PurgeStore.com and be sure to use promo code Candice. Purge Store will also gift you a free colon cleanse with a Purge subscription to help you dislodge and flush everything out of your system. That’s promo code Candice at PurgeStore.com. Okay, a couple of housekeeping items, you guys. If you want to buy Make Him a Sandwich in time for Christmas, you can do that on Amazon.
01:01:28 ▶️ Candace Owens: If you want a discount, you can buy it direct from us at MakeHimASandwich.com. You will actually get 20% off. And we also have signed copies available at CandaceOwens.com, so be sure to do that. We have new merch on the website, which also makes great Christmas gifts, obviously. We have fun, a lot of fun merch going on right now. Of course, we have our We Don’t Know, Know, But We Know merch and we have our CIA merch, which we’ve had for some time. Again, it’s the holiday season. So go ahead and run and get that top comment from last episode. You better keep asking questions because it’s the only thing that keeps us free. That is a direct quotation from Charlie (Charlie Kirk). And that’s why we’re doing it. It does keep us free. And we are all sensing the squeeze. It’s like they just want our speech. They want to purchase rational thinking. We can’t allow that to happen.
01:02:12 ▶️ Candace Owens: Okay, from this episode, Kerpster writes, I am praying that our girl is playing the ultimate long game while staying true to her convictions and true toward all of us who have backed her and Charlie from the beginning. I am praying that God keeps you strong, righteous, and faithful in every step that you take. May God save America and protect us all. I wanna say this to you guys just plainly. If I was going to sell out, it would have happened in the last two years, okay? those offers were made, those threats were made. I hope you have seen what I have gone through to keep myself really.
01:02:44 ▶️ Candace Owens: I was fighting to stay me and it was hard and that it made me really appreciate the fact that we do live in a matrix and every element is controlled and that is why they are vicious right now with making up things about me and my family because now that I chose freedom, they hate that I have freedom. They hate that there’s no more threats to make, right? So they’re just embarking on this fan fiction campaign. but especially for the people that I care about in life, right?
01:03:09 ▶️ Candace Owens: Especially for people whose heads I have held up, who have held up my head through really hard times like Charlie did, that I would just sell out to like the highest bidder and go, okay, well, you know what, BB offered me a lot of money, so I’m gonna stop talking about this and I’m no longer going to explore this angle or I’m going to, you know, to repeat to you guys, it was definitely Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Robinson. It’s just not in my character. I have always been the kind of person that knows that it’s not worth living life that way. My whole spirit would be corrupted. I couldn’t do it. I struggle with people that can do it. I struggle seeing people who have so obviously sold their souls on the Internet. It’s very frustrating to watch it.
01:03:51 ▶️ Candace Owens: Central848 writes, Candice, please look into the possibility that Charlie was electrocuted and that the hole in his neck was made by the currents passing through his necklace and out of his throat. The images of his charred hands are conclusive and compelling. Please, for the love of God, look into this. I did watch that video that Baron Coleman put together. First of all, I want to say Baron Coleman has done some incredible work and I actually told him that we should get together and collaborate because I had watched a video of his where he was building on Camp Huachuca and he made me notice some things, so then we started researching some other elements, and that’s what we’re gonna move on to tomorrow. I can tell you definitively, that’s a weird camera angle. They do look charred in the photos that he showed, but I can tell you that his hands were not charred when he was buried. And so what you thought, people were like, oh, this was makeup and stuff.
01:04:34 ▶️ Candace Owens: It was a very compelling theory, it just wasn’t so, and I very much trust the person that told me that. But that said, the Baron Coleman, if you have not seen the episode where he builds on what I said about Camp Huachuca, that is worth a watch. He kind of suggests in that episode, which I want to shut down, he suggests that, I think he heavily suggests that it could have been the… the VEEP on the base, Vance on the base, and I did then research, so I was like, oh, wow, wow, was he right? There’s actually video of Vance, so it could not have been Vance in the base. Again, I’m getting ahead of ourselves here. We should talk about more of that tomorrow, but that is a very compelling video that he did, which was fantastic work, and I do want to collaborate with him. Maybe we’ll do it this week or next week, or next week Christmas, I guess. I don’t know.
01:05:19 ▶️ Candace Owens: We’ll figure it out. Jenna writes, your true fans had no doubts about you whatsoever. Merry Christmas to you. I was like, are you new here? Girl, I have been maimed, fired, caricature. I’m watching right now. My family go through that right now because they are so desperate. And I just think we’re close to an awakening and really understanding what real evil is. So we’re going to keep pushing. Zachary Loft writes, long time listener, first time donor. Why wasn’t the combo live? Why is Brandon Tatum the only creator that you follow on both IGs? That was two questions. Okay, the first thing, why wasn’t the combo live? It was first intended to be live. They did say, obviously you saw the offer Blake Neff made, which was not a true offer. But then what came behind that was Erika communicating with Megan Kelly and me. Megan Kelly was kind of the intermediary.
01:06:03 ▶️ Candace Owens: We were trying to find someone that was fair, like I said earlier. And then, Obviously, it sort of felt like it got a bit uglier the next week, and I sort of felt, and I think it was fair, that then she went on this press tour, and it was kind of directed at me. So then they said, okay, well, by that, I mean, Justin kind of said, the temperature is a little hot right now. What about we do like an off? not an off-record conversation, but have a private conversation. And I actually will say I wished it was live, but I will also say I am glad that some parts weren’t because I was then able to tell them some things that I have not yet said, that I wanted to like fact check and get some answers on, but also to say something to them that I found out that I didn’t say because I didn’t want to hurt the company in a way, right?
01:06:47 ▶️ Candace Owens: So some of this is very relevant to Charlie’s research and what happened on 910 and some of it is not. So we got to, I guess, have a better, that portion of the conversation I think was better off camera. But I was always open and am still open to live streaming with them whenever, truly. Like whenever, you guys know I’m an open book. So it wasn’t my demand that it be private. I was happy to do a live stream. But I think Justin thought that it would be better if after just so we could kind of bring the temperature down, which I think was very much accomplished. Temperature was definitely brought down. Zachary Loft wrote, long time listener for, sorry, I just read that. Mr. Bruce Lee writes, people in the chat, many other channels are not hearing what they want to hear. So it’s automatically, well, Candice got paid. The chats are so bodied.
01:07:29 ▶️ Candace Owens: It’s better to actually look at comments after the episode to see what people think. We’ve had so many people talk about how there are so many bots in the chat and so focus on obviously the words I am saying and obviously you can tell that I have not been paid because I wouldn’t be talking about Israel and I think there’s something to explore there. We’ll get into that tomorrow. One Will Wallace writes, Pretty clear to me that Kirk was murdered because of his voice and influence. Here’s some support toward that security detail. Thank you very much. It’s obvious that these people will stop at nothing to silence someone. Continue to stand ten toes down for the truth, but please be careful. God bless you, Candice. Thank you. That is actually a tremendous donation. Thank you for those who have been giving these donations.
01:08:09 ▶️ Candace Owens: which have gotten bigger because you’re concerned about security, and I think everybody after a trial court assassination is more concerned about security. It’s a discussion that my husband and I are having more and more, and that’s why it feels especially disgusting when someone like Tim Pool is trying to signal to people… Like, he’s basically trying to signal to people that her security’s weak or, like, she’s using the same security as Charlie. All of these things, like, he is trying to put into the air that he wants me to be attacked. That’s how I’m taking this, because why is he making my security a theme on his show? I don’t trust that at all, and I don’t know what’s guiding that. Rio Bays writes, how would Erika and the feds not see those messages? That makes zero sense to me.
01:08:50 ▶️ Candace Owens: I think you’re referring to the messages that Charlie got the night before. Yeah, we didn’t discuss why the feds had received those messages. I will say that, we did not discuss that. But we did discuss, she obviously said that she did not see those messages. So I’m gonna read the rest of your comment. How would Erika and the feds not see those messages? That makes zero sense. Erika, Brian (Brian Harpole) and so many others caught in these lies. This is what you fished for. Why go soft? That doesn’t make sense. Also heard that we’re chilling with TPUSA members at Tucker’s party. That’s another more fan fiction. I have no idea what that was about. You’re referring to a person who went and said that Candice was hanging out with TP USA and Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene at Tucker’s Christmas party.
01:09:35 ▶️ Candace Owens: To my knowledge, I did not see any Turning Point USA employees. I did not have a conversation with any Tenant Turning Point USA employees. To my knowledge that I did not see them. It’s a massive party. I had never had beef with Tucker. That’s why I was at his Christmas party. And I’ve never had beef with Marjorie Taylor Greene. So yeah, I spoke to them. I didn’t, that’s what I mean. It’s like the attacks are just every second of every day accusing me of something. And the implication there was like, I was like sitting on the side laughing and enjoying a beer with Terrell Farnsworth and Tyler (Tyler (Tyler Robinson)) Boyer. I am sure because Tucker obviously has a good relationship with them that there were some Turning Point USA employees. I didn’t speak to them. I didn’t speak to them to my knowledge. I did not speak to them. So I said, I actually responded and I said to the person, why don’t you publish who you’re talking about?
01:10:18 ▶️ Candace Owens: You don’t have to like, everyone’s like beating around the bush. Like I can’t say what I know about her security. Say it because you’re lying, okay? If you say, you know something about how I’m actually secretly laughing with Turning Point USA, speak plainly. I have nothing to hide. I am not the person who’s playing any games right now. So if you’re going to call me out, go all the way, okay? Go max on calling me out because if I’m a fraud, the public sure as hell deserves to know it. And you’re not going to find me in a situation like that. Isabella Mizone writes, can you elaborate more about Charlie and his journey to Catholicism? Did Erika confirm that? I am going through a journey with Catholicism as well and I think that they should be honest about that. Look, obviously, Erika confirmed it. I was always telling the truth.
01:11:03 ▶️ Candace Owens: And I was that was one of the first things I said. I was like, what was that weird Alex thing? I was being attacked for no reason. And then I get these people doubling down on it. And I know that they know that it’s true that Charlie was going to mass. And I can’t speak on whether he was close to converting. That’s a conversation. Like you said, Erika can speak on that. And there might be a time and a place for her to do that. I can only speak on the fact that I wasn’t lying. And then I was having those conversations with him and he was sending mass and I do think from what I’ve been told that he was planning on signing up and starting that process, but I did not personally have that conversation with him. So that’s third party, the right person. to speak about that would be Erika, and I do think she should.
01:11:45 ▶️ Candace Owens: I think she should because nobody was nastier to me than the Judeo-Christians, the evangelical crowd, because I told the truth about conversations that I had with Charlie about Catholicism. And none of them corrected the record. None of them said, I’m sorry. None of them said I didn’t know what I was speaking about. They just kind of doubled and tripled down on attacking me, which is a repeat theme. I’m always being attacked for telling the truth, and I just keep telling the truth. Yeah, what’s the lie? Where is the lie? Where is the lie? Lastly, Lamp writes, how come Qatar is always used as the go-to punching bag by the media? Why does Qatar never even push back and Qatar seems to never attack Israel in a war of aggression or any sort of attack? Have they ever even done anything negative toward Israel?
01:12:31 ▶️ Candace Owens: Well, Qatar recently came out and said, yeah, we work with Hamas because Israel and the United States asked us to. They asked us to play the intermediary. And now we are being attacked for doing what they asked us to do, which sounds like the most absolute United States Israel thing ever, is to ask people to help you and then to be like, I’m so horrified by what they’re doing. And I tend to believe that I don’t understand the weird Qatar thing. Like I said, I would take Qatari money. I would. They haven’t called me. It’s deeply upsetting. I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong, what I’m getting wrong, what I can do better to make them call me. I would be totally one of those people that’s in the commercials. Have you seen, like, Qatari Airlines is supposed to be amazing apparently. And I would, I’d be in a commercial for Qatari Airlines.
01:13:14 ▶️ Candace Owens: I don’t mind somebody making that NAI video and maybe sending that over to the Qatari Embassy and seeing if they want to hire me. I am open to being paid by Qatar. So, I don’t get it. I don’t know why Jared Kushner and Zionists are allowed to go to Qatar, which happened recently, and do deals with them, but for some reason, Candice and Tucker are not. It’s just not fair. What do I have to do to be seen by Qatar? I guess it’s a question for another day. We’ll see you guys tomorrow.
Appendix: Knowledge Graph Data
Timeline Events (3)
Entities Mentioned (25)
Places: Israel
Laws & Legislation: HIPAA
Organizations: Mossad, Rumble, TikTok, Turning Point USA
People: Alex Clark, Andrew Kolvet, Bari Weiss, Baron Coleman, Cardi B, Charlie Kirk, Dan Flood, Erika Kirk, George Farmer, Glenn Beck, Jimmy Dore, Justin Streiff, Kanye West, Mia Grant, Rob McCoy, Terrell Farnsworth, Tucker Carlson, Tyler Bowyer, Zachary Loft
Statements (132)
- 00:01:26 [○] (Claim) Kanye West: “Kanye West tweeted years ago ‘just fired my manager because I realized I can’t b…”
- About: Kanye West
- 00:02:04 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The meeting yesterday was four hours and 30 minutes with no rules. At the table …”
- About: Erika Kirk, Justin Streiff, George Farmer
- 00:02:06 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The meeting with Erika Kirk and Justin Streiff lasted four hours and 30 minutes”
- About: Erika Kirk, Justin Streiff
- 00:05:02 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk gave no person the authority to say that the Catholicism thing was a …”
- About: Erika Kirk
- 00:05:02 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk did not give any person the authority to say that the Catholic claim …”
- About: Erika Kirk, Alex Clark, Andrew Kolvet
- 00:05:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk immediately owned the lies, or rather miscommunications, that were co…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Turning Point USA
- 00:05:25 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA employs 650 people”
- About: Turning Point USA
- 00:05:25 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Turning Point USA employs 650 people”
- 00:05:30 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA is a company with 650 people employed”
- About: Turning Point USA
- 00:05:52 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk said on Glenn Beck’s show that she had Charlie’s phone and that Charl…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk, Glenn Beck
- 00:05:53 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk said on Glenn Beck’s show that she had Charlie Kirk’s phone and that …”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:06:19 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet told me specifically that he was one of the people that received t…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Charlie Kirk
- 00:06:29 [○] (Claim) Andrew Kolvet: “Andrew Kolvet told Candace that he was one of the people who received a text mes…”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:06:40 [○] (Claim) Anonymous Source #1 (Ep es7PWdFGoFI): “Dan Flood received a text message from Charlie Kirk the night before the assassi…”
- About: Dan Flood, Charlie Kirk
- 00:06:40 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Dan Flood received a text message from Charlie Kirk the night before the shootin…”
- About: Dan Flood, Charlie Kirk
- 00:06:55 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Charlie Kirk sent text messages the night before his death saying they were goin…”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Andrew Kolvet, Dan Flood
- 00:07:00 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Charlie Kirk sent text messages the night before his assassination to both Andre…”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Andrew Kolvet, Dan Flood
- 00:07:01 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk had Charlie Kirk’s phone and was looking at his iMessages but not Sig…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk
- 00:07:02 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet received a message the night before Charlie Kirk was shot saying ’…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Charlie Kirk
- 00:07:02 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Charlie Kirk communicates on Signal and Telegram in addition to iMessages”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:07:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Dan Flood received a message the night before saying ‘the left is going to kill …”
- About: Dan Flood, Charlie Kirk
- 00:07:07 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “The text message Dan Flood received from Charlie Kirk said ‘the left is going to…”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Dan Flood
- 00:08:16 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk said the reason she didn’t ask Candace to stop investigating in the b…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Candace Owens
- 00:08:16 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk was learning things from Candace’s show, which is why she didn’t ask …”
- About: Erika Kirk
- 00:08:17 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk was learning things from Candace’s show and that’s why she didn’t ask…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Candace Owens
- 00:09:01 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Bari Weiss picked the questions at the memorial event. It wasn’t random people c…”
- About: Bari Weiss
- 00:09:07 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Bari Weiss selected the questions asked at the event, they were not random”
- About: Bari Weiss
- 00:09:10 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk said she knew the general idea that questions would mention Candace a…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Bari Weiss, Candace Owens
- 00:09:20 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk was not given the specific question about ‘the podcaster, Candice Owe…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Bari Weiss
- 00:09:20 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk knew the general idea about questions mentioning Candace and conspira…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Bari Weiss
- 00:09:36 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Terrell Farnsworth lied to Candace several times during their conversation”
- About: Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:09:43 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Terrell Farnsworth lied to me several times”
- About: Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:10:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Terrell Farnsworth comes from a very powerful family”
- About: Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:10:43 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Tyler Boyer lied and said Terrell was asked to take the camera down by police. T…”
- About: Tyler Robinson, Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:10:43 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Tyler Boyer lied about why Terrell Farnsworth took the camera down”
- About: Tyler Bowyer, Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:11:10 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “I don’t trust Tyler Boyer and that is never going to change”
- About: Tyler Robinson
- 00:11:16 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Rob McCoy makes my skin crawl. I look at him and he’s a bad person and nobody ca…”
- About: Rob McCoy
- 00:11:37 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Rob McCoy does not work with Turning Point USA in any capacity whatsoever”
- About: Rob McCoy, Turning Point USA
- 00:12:04 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Rob McCoy claimed on stage at the memorial to be ‘America’s pastor’ and then had…”
- About: Rob McCoy, Turning Point USA Faith
- 00:13:25 [○] (Claim) Anonymous Source #2 (Ep es7PWdFGoFI): “Charlie Kirk’s bone was so healthy and the density was so impressive that he’s l…”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:13:25 [○] (Claim) Andrew Kolvet: “Andrew Kolvet posted on Twitter that he spoke with the surgeon who said Charlie …”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:13:36 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Terrell Farnsworth lied to me several times. My skin crawled after I spoke to hi…”
- About: Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:13:43 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Terrell Farnsworth lied to Candace several times”
- About: Terrell Farnsworth
- 00:14:16 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Andrew Kolvet called the surgeon and wrote a tweet about Charlie Kirk’s bullet w…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Charlie Kirk
- 00:14:16 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet spoke to the surgeon without Turning Point USA knowing he was goin…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet
- 00:14:17 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk and Justin Streiff confirmed that Andrew Kolvet spoke to the surgeon,…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Erika Kirk, Justin Streiff
- 00:14:24 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet spoke to the surgeon without TPUSA knowing he would write that twe…”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Turning Point USA
- 00:15:17 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA did not approve of Brian Harpole going on the Shawn Ryan Show…”
- 00:15:17 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Turning Point USA did not approve Brian Harpole going on the Sean Ryan show and …”
- About: Turning Point USA, Brian Harpole
- 00:15:25 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA did not approve of Brian Harpole going on Sean Ryan’s show and…”
- About: Brian Harpole, Turning Point USA
- 00:15:26 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “TPUSA did not approve of Brian Harpole going on Sean Ryan’s show”
- About: Turning Point USA, Brian Harpole
- 00:15:28 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Brian Harpole no longer works at Turning Point USA”
- About: Brian Harpole, Turning Point USA
- 00:18:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA and Erika Kirk have not seen any evidence beyond what is publi…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Erika Kirk, Tyler Robinson
- 00:18:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA’s lawyer said they have nothing but the affidavit regarding ev…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Tyler Robinson
- 00:18:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The Turning Point USA lawyer said they have nothing but the affidavit as evidenc…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Tyler Robinson
- 00:18:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “TPUSA’s lawyer confirmed they have nothing but the affidavit - they have not see…”
- About: Turning Point USA
- 00:18:51 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk and Turning Point USA will not know what investigators have discovere…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Turning Point USA
- 00:18:51 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The Turning Point USA lawyer said they will not know what investigators have dis…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk
- 00:19:00 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA will not know what investigators have discovered until May at …”
- About: Turning Point USA
- 00:19:00 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “TPUSA will not see what investigators have discovered until a May probable cause…”
- About: Turning Point USA
- 00:19:06 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA has not seen anything regarding the Charlie Kirk shooting inve…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk
- 00:19:06 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Turning Point USA has not seen anything that the public has not seen regarding e…”
- About: Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk
- 00:20:42 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “I don’t believe that Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger”
- About: Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk
- 00:20:42 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Tyler Robinson did not pull the trigger in the Charlie Kirk shooting”
- About: Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk
- 00:20:42 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Candace does not believe Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger”
- About: Tyler Robinson
- 00:21:30 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Investigators have not called the person who filmed as he was on the roof”
- 00:21:44 [○] (Claim) Anonymous Source #3 (Ep es7PWdFGoFI): “The eyewitness filmed the person on the roof at 12:23 PM and did not see that pe…”
- About: Tyler Robinson
- 00:21:46 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The eyewitness is a guy who trains people to shoot guns at a range and knows gun…”
- 00:21:48 [○] (Claim) Anonymous Source #3 (Ep es7PWdFGoFI): “The eyewitness said he saw a smaller gun and the person was dressed in black tac…”
- About: Tyler Robinson
- 00:22:01 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Investigators have not called the eyewitness who filmed the person on the roof a…”
- About: Utah
- 00:22:08 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Eyewitness who filmed person on roof at 12:23 PM is a gun range instructor who s…”
- 00:22:19 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Utah state investigators have not called the witness who filmed the person on th…”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:22:47 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The witness who filmed the person on the roof saw him crouch down at 12:23pm but…”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:22:58 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The witness who filmed the person on the roof trains people to shoot guns at a r…”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:25:46 [○] (Claim) Blake Neff: “Blake Neff said Mikey McCoy called Erika Kirk immediately after the shooting, th…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Erika Kirk
- 00:25:51 [○] (Claim) Blake Neff: “Mikey called Erika and then immediately called his dad Rob McCoy saying ‘dad, so…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Rob McCoy
- 00:27:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “According to call logs, the first person Mikey McCoy called after the shooting w…”
- About: Mikey McCoy
- 00:27:10 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The first person Mikey McCoy called was his wife Elizabeth McCoy, and he stayed …”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Elizabeth McCoy
- 00:27:10 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey McCoy’s first call after the shooting was to his wife Elizabeth McCoy, not…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Elizabeth McCoy
- 00:27:24 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey three-wayed Erika Kirk three minutes after the shot went off, then three-w…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Erika Kirk, Rob McCoy
- 00:27:24 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey McCoy three-wayed Erika Kirk into the call with his wife three minutes aft…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Erika Kirk
- 00:27:28 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey McCoy stayed on the phone with his wife for 10 minutes, three-waying Erika…”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Erika Kirk
- 00:27:57 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Blake Neff’s call with his mother lasted 45 seconds”
- About: Blake Neff
- 00:27:57 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Blake Neff called his mother and the call lasted 45 seconds, ending around 12:25…”
- About: Blake Neff
- 00:28:26 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey called Erika after Blake Neff ended his phone call with his mother”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff, Erika Kirk
- 00:28:26 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Mikey McCoy called Erika Kirk after Blake Neff ended his call with his mother”
- About: Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff, Erika Kirk
- 00:29:28 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk was not aware of the Netanyahu offer to fund Turning Point happening”
- 00:30:34 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Seth Dillon pressed Charlie Kirk at the Hamptons retreat in a hypothetical about…”
- About: Seth Dillon, Charlie Kirk, Benjamin Netanyahu
- 00:30:59 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Seth Dillon pressed Charlie Kirk at the Hamptons event in a hypothetical about p…”
- About: Seth Dillon, Charlie Kirk, Benjamin Netanyahu
- 00:31:20 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk said she was not aware of the Bibi Netanyahu offer to fund Turning Po…”
- About: Benjamin Netanyahu, Turning Point USA
- 00:31:28 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk said she was not aware of Bibi Netanyahu offering to fund Turning Poi…”
- 00:31:31 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet told Candace verbatim that Bibi Netanyahu offered to take Turning …”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Benjamin Netanyahu, Charlie Kirk
- 00:31:51 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Andrew Kolvet told me verbatim that Bibi Netanyahu offered to take Turning Point…”
- 00:31:51 [○] (Claim) Andrew Kolvet: “Andrew Kolvet told Candace that Bibi Netanyahu offered to take Turning Point to …”
- About: Andrew Kolvet, Benjamin Netanyahu, Charlie Kirk
- 00:32:12 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Some commentators attacking me are being paid by PR firms and many are being pai…”
- About: PragerU
- 00:32:12 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Some people attacking Candace are being paid by PR firms and too many are being …”
- About: PragerU
- 00:32:14 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Some commentators attacking Candace are being paid by PR firms and Prager Univer…”
- About: PragerU
- 00:32:36 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Bibi Netanyahu called Charlie Kirk and made an offer to fund Turning Point USA”
- 00:33:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Candace never said 150 million dollars on her show regarding the Netanyahu offer”
- 00:33:27 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “I never said 150 million dollars ever, not once on the show”
- About: Candace Owens
- 00:34:48 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The Egyptian planes are flying in and out of Israel and turning their transponde…”
- 00:34:55 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “The Egyptian planes are flying in and out of Israel and turning their transponde…”
- About: Israel
- 00:35:40 [○] (Promise) Candace Owens: “I will show how these Egyptian planes tie back to Israel tomorrow and there’s no…”
- About: Israel
- 00:40:02 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “George Farmer’s Wikipedia was changed to say he had a Qatari passport or citizen…”
- About: George Farmer, Qatar
- 00:40:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “George Farmer has never been to Qatar”
- About: George Farmer, Qatar
- 00:40:22 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “They changed George Farmer’s Wikipedia and said that he had a Qatari passport or…”
- About: George Farmer
- 00:40:46 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “When you see a media storm like this, it can only be happening because Zionists …”
- About: Zionism
- 00:40:54 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Zionists control the major media outlets”
- About: Zionism
- 00:41:01 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “The New York Post published fabricated stories about Candace Owens, including cl…”
- About: New York Post, Candace Owens
- 00:41:04 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “George Farmer’s Wikipedia was edited to falsely claim he had Qatari citizenship”
- About: George Farmer
- 00:41:37 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “I never drove my car to work at the Daily Wire, they had a driver that took me t…”
- About: Candace Owens, The Daily Wire
- 00:41:37 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “The New York Post published an article claiming an inside source said Candace th…”
- About: New York Post, DailyWire
- 00:41:57 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Candace never drove her car to the Daily Wire, they had a driver that took her t…”
- About: DailyWire
- 00:42:32 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Zionists control major media outlets”
- 00:42:38 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Candace’s whole team from the Daily Wire came with her when she got fired”
- About: DailyWire
- 00:42:41 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “My whole team came with me when I got fired from the Daily Wire”
- About: Candace Owens, The Daily Wire
- 00:43:01 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “I believe that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people that are close to him”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA
- 00:43:11 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people that are close to him”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 00:45:56 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Tim Pool claimed that Candace Owens has the same security as Charlie Kirk, after…”
- About: Tim Pool, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk
- 00:55:32 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “George Zinn was arrested for claiming to be the shooter on the day of the shooti…”
- About: George Zinn, Charlie Kirk
- 00:56:46 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “George Zinn told nurses at Utah Valley Hospital he was paid to falsely claim res…”
- About: George Zinn, Utah Valley Hospital
- 00:56:47 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Nurses at Utah Valley Hospital were told by George Zinn that he was paid to fals…”
- About: George Zinn
- 00:58:09 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Megyn Kelly offered to referee the conversation between Candace and Turning Poin…”
- About: Megyn Kelly
- 01:03:00 [○] (Opinion) Candace Owens: “Candace believes Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people close to him”
- About: Charlie Kirk
- 01:08:18 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Tim Pool is trying to signal to people that my security is weak or that I’m usin…”
- About: Tim Pool, Candace Owens
- 01:08:24 [○] (Accusation) Candace Owens: “Tim Pool is signaling to people that Candace’s security is weak, which she inter…”
- About: Tim Pool
- 01:11:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk confirmed that Charlie Kirk was going to Catholic mass”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Erika Kirk
- 01:11:07 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Erika Kirk confirmed that Charlie Kirk was going to mass and exploring Catholici…”
- About: Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk
- 01:11:07 [○] (Claim) Erika Kirk: “Erika Kirk confirmed that Charlie Kirk was exploring Catholicism and attending m…”
- About: Charlie Kirk, Erika Kirk
- 01:12:34 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Qatar said they work with Hamas because Israel and the US asked them to play int…”
- About: Qatar, Israel, United States
- 01:12:54 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Qatar recently said they work with Hamas because Israel and the United States as…”
- 01:13:14 [○] (Claim) Candace Owens: “Qatar recently came out and said we work with Hamas because Israel and the Unite…”